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--QICbot (talk) 05:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Tilt
Could you fix the tilt from your RAW file? ★ 14:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ArionStar:
Done. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Categorisation needed on "Switzerland"
Hello, I noticed you imported images on the "Switzerland" category.
Do you plan to categorize more precisely these images ?
Pmau (talk) 08:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nice. Except maybe the first few, I think they can all go into Category:Valais. There is Zermatt, Sion, Brig, Leuk, Fiesch, St-Leonard underground lake. BTW consider voting on the new file naming policy. Enhancing999 (talk) 10:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, sorry, I'm trying to catch up on my big backlog of photos to upload and categorise. I've been prioritising uploading, but another pass through is planned to make sure they are fully categorised. Thanks to both of you for doing initial categorisation of this set! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Manual QID cleanup
Hello Mike Peel.
To solve the problem mentioned at User_talk:Radiojunkie#c-Radiojunkie-20240325174800-Enhancing999-20240325164700, maybe the following could work:
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Presumably it goes into [1]. Enhancing999 (talk) 20:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999 and Radiojunkie: Thanks for the suggestion, added and running now. Ideally it needs a regex that can cope with any whitespace, but I'm not too good at writing those. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, but it didn't work. I added tests at [2] and [3] that got skipped. The template syntax seems to be very permissive, see [4]. Here is an attempt with regex, maybe working in python:
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If you prefer the format as in the current code, that should be:
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There are currently >4400 pages in Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with manual qid. Some are recent (newer than the bi-weekly import), others due to galleries, plus the ones this should solve. Maybe the import could be done daily as well (instead of Mon and Fri only). Possibly we should drop galleries from Wikidata items.
Enhancing999 (talk) 10:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Do you need help with this? Enhancing999 (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: Sorry for the delay in getting back to you about this, I was taking some time off over Easter + working on other forms of contributions. The code looks good, now implemented and running, starting at 4,395 categories and 1,536 galleries, let's see how it goes. The script does run daily. Galleries can also be sitelinked to from Wikidata - see d:User:Mike Peel/Commons linking for how this works. Basically, galleries are sitelinked in the main items, and categories in connected category items where those exist (or if a gallery exists that also needs linked to). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Now down to 3,905 categories and 1,535 galleries, including catching both of your test cases, that seemed to work quite well, thanks! I think a lot of the others need manual cleanup... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good. Almost 500. Thanks. The script that runs only bi-weekly is the previous step: importing from Commons. Running it more frequently would limit work Radiojunkie might do based on one click creations of mine. If there are other cases in Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with manual qid that could be fixed automatically, I can try to figure out the regex. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:03, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: OK, timing changed, it will now import new QIDs; then tidy up QIDs; then do the daily infobox deployment. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Timing seems to work perfectly! [5] Thanks. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: OK, timing changed, it will now import new QIDs; then tidy up QIDs; then do the daily infobox deployment. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: Sorry for the delay in getting back to you about this, I was taking some time off over Easter + working on other forms of contributions. The code looks good, now implemented and running, starting at 4,395 categories and 1,536 galleries, let's see how it goes. The script does run daily. Galleries can also be sitelinked to from Wikidata - see d:User:Mike Peel/Commons linking for how this works. Basically, galleries are sitelinked in the main items, and categories in connected category items where those exist (or if a gallery exists that also needs linked to). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Module:I18n
Hi! You have created the page Module:I18n. I'd like to understand all the details about how that internationalization system works. Other than yourself, who are the people to whom you'd recommend talking about it? It has a bit of a complex history :)
Thanks! Amir E. Aharoni (WMF) (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I just copied it over from enwiki, tracing it back there, it was originally in en:Module:Wikidata. @RexxS: used to maintain that, but has retired from the wikis now. Looking at subpages, perhaps @Zolo: understands the system and could help? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Update after category rename
At d:Q118917882#P373 and a few others, I noticed the bot doesn't update the category after the rename here. Maybe this is due to the reference mentioned there. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: The code for this task is at [6]. It runs a query to find mismatched sitelinks+P373 values and then tries to resolve them if one points to the other. The problem is, there are too many that the bot can't fix, so they are clogging up the system. The script breaks the query into sets of 100, and runs up to 7200, before the query times out on the server side. I've added a try/except to see if I can get it to run a bit further, let's see if that helps. Ideally, P373 would just be deleted, and we could only use the sitelinks rather than duplicating the info in a non-auto-updating property. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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"Module:No globals"
- Please edit Module:WikidataIB and remove the line
-- Module:No globals
- Please delete Module:No globals. It's disused. outdated trans count, now at ca 1'900'000, slowly sinking
- Taylor 49 (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: Please propose it at Module talk:WikidataIB and en:Module talk:WikidataIB, and make the suggested edit at Module:WikidataIB/sandbox. If I remember right, it was added as a check to make sure that only local variables were used, and it was required by someone on enwiki, so discussing it there is particularly important, since the code is kept in sync between enwiki and commons (and elsewhere). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- already done on enwiki. Please perform the edit and delete the disused module. Taylor 49 (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: Link to discussion please? Mike Peel (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- done long ago. Did you check? Taylor 49 (talk) 20:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- here. Did you check? Taylor 49 (talk) 20:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Still waiting for a link to a discussion where it was decided this was no longer needed. Replacing the template call with "require("strict")" might be a possibility. Mike Peel (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- here. Did you check? Taylor 49 (talk) 20:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- done long ago. Did you check? Taylor 49 (talk) 20:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: Link to discussion please? Mike Peel (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- already done on enwiki. Please perform the edit and delete the disused module. Taylor 49 (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: Please propose it at Module talk:WikidataIB and en:Module talk:WikidataIB, and make the suggested edit at Module:WikidataIB/sandbox. If I remember right, it was added as a check to make sure that only local variables were used, and it was required by someone on enwiki, so discussing it there is particularly important, since the code is kept in sync between enwiki and commons (and elsewhere). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I finally tracked this back to phab:T209310. Am unimpressed by the communications here, but implementing it now. Mike Peel (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LennardHofmann: Trying to sync with enwiki, there are a bunch of other changes that need to be synced, can you help? [7]. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think these minor improvements are worth updating this highly-used module. Module_talk:Wd#Syncing_with_enwiki on the other hand... LennardHofmann (talk) 17:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LennardHofmann: It seems I need to update WikidataIB here anyway, so it would be good to sync at the same time. Although I think Commons is actually the later version, so it might need a merge the other way. If you could have a look at this, that would be great. And thanks for the reminder about Wd, will look at that now! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think these minor improvements are worth updating this highly-used module. Module_talk:Wd#Syncing_with_enwiki on the other hand... LennardHofmann (talk) 17:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is a coursebook example of stubborn obstructive bureaucracy. Here:
- It's not a possibility, it's a fact. But you "unimpressed by the communications" repeatedly refused to check the relevant facts, and instead made useless obstructive and unrelated demands (such as performing tasks done long ago, see above).
- Do you still have agruments against deletion of "Module:No globals" left? Taylor 49 (talk) 21:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: You abruptly demanded that I make an edit to a template with millions of uses, with no links to any technical explanations of why the edit should be made. I asked for links to discussions, you didn't provide any. I spent time to track the issue back to the phabricator ticket, which you could have linked to from the start. There are still unresolved issues about this migration process, raised in the phabricator ticket. This is not stubborn obstructive bureaucracy, it's just trying to understand the issue. Mike Peel (talk) 22:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure I could have linked more. But the crucial fact mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#strict is mentioned at Module:No globals linked at the very top. And the argument "millions of uses" doesn't bite for removal of an obviously outdated comment line. A line beginning with
--is a comment line in LUA. [8] [9] Taylor 49 (talk) 22:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- The phab link was important. As is understanding whether the link is only a comment or actually a transclusion, can the rest of the commented out modules also be removed? Mike Peel (talk) 22:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Doing so would harm readability, but not function. Taylor 49 (talk) 22:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate on that? Mike Peel (talk) 23:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- w:Comment_(computer_programming)#BASIC. Taylor 49 (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see (and that brings back memories of coding in BASIC!). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- w:Comment_(computer_programming)#BASIC. Taylor 49 (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate on that? Mike Peel (talk) 23:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Doing so would harm readability, but not function. Taylor 49 (talk) 22:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- The phab link was important. As is understanding whether the link is only a comment or actually a transclusion, can the rest of the commented out modules also be removed? Mike Peel (talk) 22:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure I could have linked more. But the crucial fact mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#strict is mentioned at Module:No globals linked at the very top. And the argument "millions of uses" doesn't bite for removal of an obviously outdated comment line. A line beginning with
- @Taylor 49: You abruptly demanded that I make an edit to a template with millions of uses, with no links to any technical explanations of why the edit should be made. I asked for links to discussions, you didn't provide any. I spent time to track the issue back to the phabricator ticket, which you could have linked to from the start. There are still unresolved issues about this migration process, raised in the phabricator ticket. This is not stubborn obstructive bureaucracy, it's just trying to understand the issue. Mike Peel (talk) 22:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LennardHofmann: Trying to sync with enwiki, there are a bunch of other changes that need to be synced, can you help? [7]. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK, WikidataIB now updated, uses of no globals going down, let's follow this up in the deletion discussion from now on. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Mike - your bot made an error in editing Category:Cecropis badia in this edit - it added {{Wikidata Infobox}}, which is correct, but it also removed {{Geogroup}}, a very important mapping tool, which it should not have done. Can you make sure it doesn't make this error again! Thanks - MPF (talk) 07:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MPF: That's deliberate, everything that Geogroup does is in the infobox. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- It isn't; it is the only way to map out geotagged files in the category. While this may not matter much with a small category like this one, it is an extremely useful tool for finding files that should be moved into subcategories. Example, if I find a file in Category:Anas superciliosa (an Australian species) that maps in UK rather than Australia (e.g. File:Australian Black Duck (5375549234).jpg), it needs to be recategorised into Category:Anas superciliosa (captive) as the species does not occur naturally in UK. If the Geogroup tag is removed this can't be done other than by examining every file in the category individually. It saves a huge amount of time and makes adding subcategories a lot easier. It is also very useful for finding files where the file's geotag has been entered incorrectly (e.g. forgetting a minus sign for western hemisphere coordinates); these are quite common. So please leave the Geogroup tag in, and restore any that the bot has removed. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 09:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MPF: Look at the "WikiMap" and "KML file" links at the bottom of the infobox, and compare them to the links in the Geogroup template...? ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Managed to find those eventually, but it's a lot of extra work - click on 'Expand' (which then buggers up the category page file layout royally), scroll half-way to Australia, and then hunt for the link. And it shows the version including subcategories, not the one that doesn't show them, which is what I need. And then finally, click 'Collapse' again to restore the file layout. It is not a substitute for having the Geogroup on the category page. - MPF (talk) 10:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- You shouldn't have to expand the infobox, it should automatically be displayed alongside the category contents? There's a check-box on WikiMap to turn off subcategories, if you don't want those, although that makes no difference in this case. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it can be set to be permanently expanded, but as mentioned - it buggers up the page layout horribly if you do. And 99.99% of the time, you don't want it cluttering the page up. - MPF (talk) 10:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- It should just take up a column on the right-hand side, is it appearing differently for you? It's aimed to be fairly minimal, and a lot better than having text/templates at the top of the category page pushing the whole page down, while showing useful links and content from Wikidata (including which Commons images are used there and hence in Wikipedia articles etc.). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it can be set to be permanently expanded, but as mentioned - it buggers up the page layout horribly if you do. And 99.99% of the time, you don't want it cluttering the page up. - MPF (talk) 10:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- You shouldn't have to expand the infobox, it should automatically be displayed alongside the category contents? There's a check-box on WikiMap to turn off subcategories, if you don't want those, although that makes no difference in this case. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Managed to find those eventually, but it's a lot of extra work - click on 'Expand' (which then buggers up the category page file layout royally), scroll half-way to Australia, and then hunt for the link. And it shows the version including subcategories, not the one that doesn't show them, which is what I need. And then finally, click 'Collapse' again to restore the file layout. It is not a substitute for having the Geogroup on the category page. - MPF (talk) 10:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MPF: Look at the "WikiMap" and "KML file" links at the bottom of the infobox, and compare them to the links in the Geogroup template...? ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- It isn't; it is the only way to map out geotagged files in the category. While this may not matter much with a small category like this one, it is an extremely useful tool for finding files that should be moved into subcategories. Example, if I find a file in Category:Anas superciliosa (an Australian species) that maps in UK rather than Australia (e.g. File:Australian Black Duck (5375549234).jpg), it needs to be recategorised into Category:Anas superciliosa (captive) as the species does not occur naturally in UK. If the Geogroup tag is removed this can't be done other than by examining every file in the category individually. It saves a huge amount of time and makes adding subcategories a lot easier. It is also very useful for finding files where the file's geotag has been entered incorrectly (e.g. forgetting a minus sign for western hemisphere coordinates); these are quite common. So please leave the Geogroup tag in, and restore any that the bot has removed. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 09:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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