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Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File tagging File:Early succession of the Cinder Cones methane seep.jpg

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Ytoyoda (talk) 17:29, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I removed the {{No permission since}} note you added:

1. it does have license description and is not missing permission information 2. the license is Commons compatible and is CC BY 4.0 3. the pdf and html of the link in the source have this copyright information clearly visible 4. if for whatever reason a deletion is requested nevertheless please create a request for deletion

--Prototyperspective (talk) 20:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, I somehow missed it when I checked the link. Ytoyoda (talk) 22:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Topless is not "Nude"

Please note that there is no nude person in photo File:Body painting - border-radius.jpg. Thank you. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ups, sorry. Thank you. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also dont remove categories from a file just yu because think that an simple nude image is porn. Move it a lower category or create a lower one instead of removing valid categories from a image like you did to hundreds of images in Category:Project "Geekography" by Exey Panteleev (nude portrayals of computer technology), especially when they have been dicussed to death in more than 50 pages in all of it´s aspects. Tm (talk) 17:10, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nude portrayals of Fake news like this, instead of removing valid categories. Tm (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tet (talk) 14:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Categories like "Statistics until 2022" (etc)

I'm unsure of the value in adding a category that shows the final year shown in a chart. Such a category would require continual vigilance on the part of uploaders as the charts are updated. For example, File:20201211 Billion dollar events related to climate change - U.S. -en.svg will be updated every year, making its inclusion in Statistics until 2022 stale and inaccurate. Also, the inclusion of File:1960- Groundwater loss - depletion - Central Valley of California.svg in Statistics until 2020 is inaccurate, as it already contains data for 2021. I plan to delete those designations in those two files, unless you can explain why they should remain. RCraig09 (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How is it not valuable? What you described is the purpose of it: this way you could more easily find (via petscan or other means) which charts need updating. You can also use it to find the most-up-to-date chart(s).

Once a new version of a chart is uploaded, the category is changed. The until was meant as an inclusive until, so this is something to clarify anyway: does/should "until" mean 'data until year x' or 'data until including year x'? Prototyperspective (talk) 16:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see the value in such categories, though they would require uploaders to be vigilant to change categories with each update.

Maybe a better title scheme would be Category:Charts showing data through 2022. The word "through" is less ambiguous than "until". RCraig09 (talk) 17:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, however other people can update the category as well if they don't do so themselves and most people don't update the statistical images that they upload (and if they do, it's likely they also are usually quite vigilant to change the category).

Good idea, that was one reason for why I kept it a redcategory – the other reason is that many charts of OWID and from other sources are missing there. I don't think a script could solve this so this would require some effort to categorize the charts appropriately. The earlier this is done – once implemented new charts would likely get quickly categorized into these, enabling users to refine search-results or make novel query...for example to filter out charts that are outdated by more than a decade.

The issue with "through 2022" is that it kind of reads as if the data was from start to end of 2022 but not from some point in the past to end of 2022. Do you have another idea or should there be a discussion at some WikiProject-like place on WMC? The images can be easily recategorized once a better name is found. I thought "Statistics" would be better than "Charts showing data" since it's shorter and more easily found since people likely enter Statistics into the HotCat input-box. What do you think about something like "Category:Charts showing data up to and including 2022"? Prototyperspective (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since the category would contain images of (visible) charts rather than (abstract) statistics, I think the best solution is to retain the word Charts. (I don't think most uploaders even use HotCat; I don't even know how.) Also, ...through... is appropriate, as it covers both charts starting in 2022 and charts starting before 2022—both interpretations are correct. (You may be confusing through (which is OK) with throughout (which is not OK).) I don't think others will share our enthusiasm for the idea, to the extent that we need to get wider input on minor issues like naming. I'm strongly leaning toward Category:Charts showing data through 2022. RCraig09 (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll move them to the category title you suggested. I'm not a native English speaker and when reading that title would think of the chart possibly being about 2022 only, not up to and including 2022 – however, maybe that's just me and it should be clear from whatever chart the cat is set on anyway. I'll add some category description that makes it clear. Thanks for your feedback! Prototyperspective (talk) 19:18, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

— Now I'm worried that too many charts will be placed into these categories. I would plan to put my 200-300+ charts into such categories. But if other editors put charts in these categories, there will be thousands and thousands and thousands of them—making the categories less useful (too big to manage).
— I'm considering user-specific categories, like Category:RCraig09 charts showing data through 2022—to keep the number of category members manageable. Do you know if there is any rule against making user-specific categories? RCraig09 (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This problem exists for countless categories – it's a general WMC problem.

That problem should be addressed by developers by adding features like enabling easily searching within a category, showing top or most recent charts at the top of the page, and so on.
It can also be addressed by simply making subcategories. The latter can be easily done with the cat-a-lot tool. It would be really nice if you could add your charts to these categories, I just haven't gotten to doing so. There can be multiple types of subcategories like "Environmental charts..." within "charts...by topic" and user-specific categories within "Charts showing data through 2022 by source". There are many user-specific categories (example 1, example 2).

Prototyperspective (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'll be adding my own user-specific sub-categories, then. You don't need to add my charts to the super-categories, as I will only change the file pages later. RCraig09 (talk) 16:11, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Dronebogus (talk) 01:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fictional book cover for scifi children's book "13th prophecy" by Valentine Ermatinger (post-apocalyptic AI art).jpg

Yo, do you mind telling me how this is supposed to be fan art? Trade (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I thought it was because it was intentionally relating to the contents of the book. It intends to depict imagery of the book and is visually and conceptually somewhat similar to the actual book cover. However, I wasn't sure if that's fan art too. I'll just remove the category for now, somebody else could readd the category if it indeed is fan art which I'm not sure it is. "Fan art or fanart is artwork created by fans of a work of fiction [...]" matches the image but it does not display a character of it and is not unambiguously related to the book. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:30, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The entire reason i created the category was to help people to keep an eye out for potentially derivative works. Adding images of fictional characters created by the uploader largely defeats the purpose Trade (talk) 03:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Or at last use Category:AI-generated fictional characters instead Trade (talk) 03:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About Category:Energy supply and the category structure of Category:Energy

Before we start an edit war about overcategorization (Category:Energy is a great-grandparent of Category:Energy supply, so your edit should be reversed again), perhaps we might discuss the broader problem with the category structure of Category:Energy: that subcategories are too hard to find, which might be the underlying problem you encountered and reacted to. Would you like to join the discussion on Category talk:Energy supply? Perhaps you have ideas to make the structure less complicated? JopkeB (talk) 03:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is only a great-grandparent to Energy supply via "Energy economics". However, Energy supply & distribution including Category:Energy transportation like physical power lines are not only related to it in terms of economics.

I thought that was quite obvious so didn't explain it in the edit summary. I don't think people consider it to not also be an issue of infrastructure and many other things so I don't think I need to elaborate further and probably the Wikipedia categorization got this right too. I also still think Category:Energy transportation should be directly in category Energy, not buried deep down in some nested subcategory, I added it to its parent category because you reverted that. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is best to copy your objections to the Talk page so that others can give reactions too. JopkeB (talk) 09:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

gibberish

I used clipdrop, but some still get blurry, I like creating art on Bing because it can emulate retro comics, AI dystopia comics is an example of why I can't erase it. Hyju (talk) 10:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's still better than with the gibberish text. One could modify it further with an image editor like GIMP or Photoshop, for example using the patchfix tool. Maybe one could also just cut it out and then use img2img or inpainting to restore it. Or use img2img but as a negative prompt add "text", "letters" and "gibberish". I just tried it with Clipdrop and while it does have some problems, it's better than with that gibberish text. I thought about also naming that image as one to keep but there also is a problem with the gun where there's this extra part that would also better be removed. Here is what I made with Clipdrop but I guess one could further edit it or use the cleanup tool anew. Still, I'd rather upload that as a new version than keeping the image as is (you can use the image I linked if you'd like to.) Prototyperspective (talk) 11:11, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the problem is that as I did with Bing, it is based on Dall-E, those that use img2img are based on Stable Diffusion and the result loses the retro style (especially the coloring), I was also going to erase the head and the ships. I would also delete the head and the ships, usually I ask for certain scenarios and they end up appearing as a title or speech bubblesHyju (talk) 12:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to specify things like that it should be in comics style and set a high image strength. If you can't make a better version you could just upload the one I linked above which is better than the existing image with gibberish. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried it and it comes out differently, I've noticed that the two systems operate differently, even with the same prompts, characters and styles even differ in appearance, Dall-E tends to be more faithful, I wanted to know what the GIMP tool is, I have a version of it on PC. Hyju (talk) 13:12, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, one needs to adjust the prompts when switching between generators to get similar results. In Stable Diffusion you should for example use more 'tags' rather than sentences. GIMP is just a free image editor and you can use the patch/heal tool (along with other tools of it if you have the skills) to fix issues. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I started using Dream by Wombo, since it doesn't have limited credits, but the "vintage comic" rendering can only be found on Bing, based on Stable Diffusion, characters like Tintin and Betty Boop don't even look like the originals, the Hergé style for example, it's more reminiscent of Peanuts, I haven't yet found one that uses Dall-E and has img2img, then I could make more changes, the lack of other features such as negative prompts also gets in the way. Hyju (talk) 14:04, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Hi, Please read Commons:Fan art, stop uploading and arguing ad nauseam about out of scope AI-generated fan art. Thanks, Yann (talk) 18:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is the original work of fiction if it is fan art? It is simple question that remains unanswered. If I misunderstood something, please explain it such as for example by quoting a specific part of that page. I'm clueless as to why somebody would think it's fan art. It isn't. And even if it is, that does not warrant deletion when the file is in use per COM:SCOPE. I argue because I address points and my points get ignored and/or misrepresented. It's not AI-generated fan art but maybe I'm wrong and wait for an answer to my simple question. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please do review Commons:Fan art and SCOPE. No need to spend time arguing and splitting hairs about definitions. Quite simply you may think such uploads fit the project, but the consensus is otherwise. I politely suggest you either find less contentious ways to contribute to Wikimedia Commons, or find other venues for your uploads that do not seem widely appreciated here. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those are not my uploads
I did. Per COM:INUSE for example the files are clearly to be kept. By the quote I asked about, the images referred to are clearly not fan art.
1. I may have misunderstood something so I'd appreciate an answer to my simple question. That page starts off with Fan art is a term describing unofficial artistic representations of elements or characters in an original work of fiction. What is the work of fiction here?
2. As far as I understood those images they are NOT based on works of fiction but drawings of an historical figure. Again, I may be wrong but just claiming things are fan art while they clearly aren't isn't enough to ignore the SCOPE policy alongside the educational value of those high-quality AI art images of which only a few had misgenerations and no valid deletion rationale has been provided.

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Unexplained removal of apparently relevant category

On File:PANO1 dessin herisson panneau CFZ.jpg the author states the date of their creation of this cartoon. I saw you removed the category for the date of the cartoon. If you have a reason for doing so, it is not obvious to me. Thanks for your attention. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I added an explanation to some of the edits: it only shows a cartoon character but not a cartoon. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, If I understand correctly, you argue that the drawing is not a cartoon? I would have said it is. (Perhaps we should have some sort of definition at the parent category?) If you think the drawing isn't a cartoon, maybe moving categorization to "2011 drawings" or someting similar might be more useful than removing categorization by date of creation completely? Wondering, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is a cartoon character or a drawing in cartoon style but not a cartoon. The definition of the German WP may be a bit clearer in that regard than the linked article albeit that also makes it clear A cartoon is a graphic that tells a comic and/or satirical story in one image - usually with a punch line. Originally no words were used for the visual joke.. I didn't notice such a category existed but it seems like those images already were in that category with the image you linked being an exception…the category seems to be missing a whole lot of images if it is indeed meant to include all drawings made or published in that year. Prototyperspective (talk) 00:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Videos of films from 1990 in the public domain

Hi Prototyperspective, the name of the category is wrong and misleading, even with the extended category description. A file licensed under Creative Commons is copyrighted but never in the public domain. All files on Wikimedia Commons are either under a free license like CC BY(-SA) or under CC0 and at the earliest 70 years after the death of the photographer/author in the public domain. I suggest that you remove the part "in the public domain" if you want to categorize videos independent from the license. Raymond (talk) 16:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please also see the wikilink that explains this: Public domain#Public-domain-like licenses.

There is the term public domain for the license as well as the term public (adjective) domain as a broader concept (see domain). This one refers to the latter and you could consider it as a short form for "Videos of films from 1990 in the public domain or with public domain-like licenses" if you don't see what is meant with the broader concept domain there.

The whole point of these categories is the licenses which are all all WMC-compatible licenses which are PD, CCBY, CCBYSA, etc. Maybe the part could be removed since that is required for the files to be here anyway. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As non-native English speaker I was not aware of the broader concept and I am not sure that it is very wide known. Never read about that defition in German. Anyway. Removal of the part would reduce confusion like mine :-) Raymond (talk) 17:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll probably move (rename) the categories later to remove that part, thanks for the feedback. Alternatively I may ask about it somewhere (a problem with this solution is that people may think it also contains videos of short parts of film but these categories are meant to contain only videos of full-length films). Prototyperspective (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibook

I posted examples of art I create on Bing and I think it could be included in the en:wikibooks:AI Art Generation Handbook, but I don't know how to put it there. Hyju (talk) 10:09, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The link doesn't work. I'm also making a WikiBook that is published as a work-in-progress but that's not the one you linked there. I don't add images on request or anything similar but only to illustrate existing & potential useful applications and methods to generate & improve AI art. I found the image of the enlarged ant useful and requested its undeletion. But other than that I'm not sure what the images could help illustrate even though they can be useful elsewhere. A missing example in the Wikibook would be a short comic made of AI-generated images. If you could make new images and make a comic with a coherent story and speech bubbles (or captions underneath), that would probably be added. You could also explain a potential application on the talk page of the Wikibook. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I messed up the link and fixed it, I still haven't been able to create panels that look good.Hyju (talk) 10:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It would probably be best if you added these panels to here: Wikibooks:AI Art Generation Handbook/Art Medium. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I don't even know English very well, so it's difficult to write anything more than a more elaborate text. Hyju (talk) 10:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think what you have there could be enough for that page and just use a translator. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I made a version of the executive rhino and added it there Hyju (talk) 13:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great but you also removed a row there, not sure if that was intentional (see the diff). Prototyperspective (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't intentional, I removed the word Javan because it couldn't pass the Bing filter. I saw that you took some art I sent, curiously, the African tribe was supposed to have a Native American appearance, the one I sent African didn't turn out as expected. Hyju (talk) 18:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I found the image by accident when searching for new AI-generated images and found it relatively high quality. Not entirely sure what you mean. In the image I used you used the term "prehistoric" which along with other indicators (the cat "Artistic restorations of prehistoric life (2020s)" and the clothing etc) suggests (or by definition means) that it depicts "ancient" humans. More details could be useful...for example the prompt if you still have it. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't save it, but I generated another one similar to these: ancient humans in stone age, highly realistic faces, matte painting, highly detailed, stone age scene, cave humans, trending on artstation, historical art comic vintage 1940s african american Hyju (talk) 11:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Send another paleoart, this time I sent the previous art and put it in [1]'s img2mg, it tries to decipher the prompts and you can use a magic prompt tool and generate a new prompt, that's what I used, I changed some things to suit suit what I wanted (vintage comic style, woman). Hyju (talk) 23:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't understand the arguments for deleting so many letters I've uploaded. Hyju (talk) 01:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SCP-106.jpg

The file is explictly released under the terms of CC-BY-SA 3.0 like other site material on the SCP Wiki site is required to. You can see this notice at the very bottom of the website, as well as a "‡ Licensing / Citation" section near the bottom. I can understand that licensing information on the site can be difficult to find though.

The original image used on the article, way back in the day, was not actually CC and so a contest was held for artists to submit original alternatives which were CC and thus suitable for inclusion on the site. The image uploaded at File:SCP-106.jpg is the entry they ultimately replaced it with. I've added a link with the forum comment containing information in the source section to assist those in the future looking at sourcing for this file.

The information is noted here: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-232703/scp-106#post-4114303, where it is noted:

Congratulations to the winners of the SCP-106 Photography Contest held on r/scp!
The first image "106 Emergence", the second image "106 Door" and third image "106 Victim" were all won by Cinemamind, and each is released under CC-BY-SA 3.0.

The first link is to the SCP-106 Photography Contest announcement post on Reddit. This post explains that:

This Contest will revolve around SCP-106 "The Old Man" by DrGears. Of the three images on SCP-106's file, none are compliant with the license. All will need to be replaced. This is where you come in.

And in the "rules" section the following bullet points are relevant to image licensing.

Entries must be released under CC-BY-SA 3.0 More information on what this means can be found here.

Entries should not be perfect recreations of the original images in other mediums (3D modeling, painting, etc). Exact copies would just be plagiarism of the original artwork, which will place us in pretty much the same predicament. Simulate, not duplicate. (Does not apply to SCP-162 category)

Entrants must provide a CC-compliant or public domain source, or prove that they took the photo in question.

This links to the SCP-106 Photography Contest submission thread on Reddit.

Later, the "emergence" photo (File:SCP-106.jpg) was replaced with a different CC-BY-SA 3.0 image, this time created by MrKlay. In the forum post just below the previous one mentioned, you can see this update: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-232703/scp-106#post-4122121. Also being a submission for a SCP-106 image replacement, it was released under CC-BY-SA 3.0.

The artist also uploaded a copy to their ArtStation account, which is also linked. However, I don't think ArtStation has the ability to signify a license in their UI? Or it wasn't added for the entry. Would it be better to remove the link from the source section?

Regardless, this should provide enough overall context to show not just that the image is CC-BY-SA 3.0, but it was specifically created with the intention of being media under that license. aismallard (talk) 01:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you for these explanations. I'll link that from the file and retract the missing evidence note. The ArtStation link didn't have this license info and I thought the Wiki just hosted the file from there with the CCBY note at the bottom only referring to the texts or at least not also to this image. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Technical needs survey - Media dumps

Hello, Prototyperspective. Some time ago, you commented on this proposal, saying that you tended toward support (but it wasn't a clear support), and we had some conversation about it. Then, official voting hadn't started yet. Now, true votes are put on the new Votes section, instead of Discussion. Since your comment wasn't a clear vote, it remains in discussion. If you are truly convinced now, I would be thankeful if you give a Support vote to the proposal. Of course, I have no problem if you don't, or even if you vote against while giving some arguments. I'm telling you about it only because it was left as a kind of half-done vote, and I'd love know your final decision, if you want to. MGeog2022 (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reminding me, didn't think of checking whether my comment was moved as support to the Votes section. Will clarify there. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much :-) MGeog2022 (talk) 13:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adamant1 (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Just a random question since it keeps coming up and seems like a particularly strong point of contention, but if artwork based on fictional representations of people from the 15th hundreds that were created by someone who is clearly a fan of them and time period doesn't count as fan art then what in your opinion would? Or is nothing fan art as long as it's created by an AI generator? Like if they were AI generated images of Marvel characters would that count as fan art or would you just give the images a pass "because AI"? Adamant1 (talk) 21:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See fan art and COM:FAN neither of these match what you think of as 'fan art' – even if it was both possible to be a "fan" of the depicted people and time period and the uploader to be such which are two things I doubt as well. Art depicting Marvel characters is fan art if not done by official artists / Marvel and it doesn't matter how that art is made in that regard. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:1973 Brazilian Grand Prix (Brasil Hoje n. 24).webm

Hello! I had to remove the Category:Videos without audio from File:1973 Brazilian Grand Prix (Brasil Hoje n. 24).webm due to this reason: the video has audio, but there's something wrong with the Commons player. Erick Soares3 (talk) 19:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know, that's why I added this cat so to enable a way to keep track of all the videos where the audio is removed or is there another category for that? Other videos in that cat have the same problem. Prototyperspective (talk) 19:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought keeping track of these could be useful since it would allow investigating what causes this problem or in the case that something needs to be done per video (such as converting the video somehow). I think it used to be the case for only some video uploads but now seems to be the case for all new video uploads so tracking those videos probably isn't useful. I'll remove the category also from the other videos once this problem has been solved. Prototyperspective (talk) 19:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that any specific Category would need to be worked with the Phabricator - unless they have any other way to track the videos. But since it seems to be an specific glitch with the Commons player, it wouldn't be necessary. Erick Soares3 (talk) 20:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

N2O Budget

Hi Prototyperspective, I have a question. You have uploaded the file Global Nitrous Oxide Budget 2020.png under the CC 4.0 license, but I could not find such a license on the website of the Global Carbon Project. I was offered help in creating an SVG graphic, but the license terms should be clear upfront. Can you help me further? Perhaps I have overlooked something. Thank you. --Mister Pommeroy (talk) 08:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know! This is really strange, I only upload things when I'm really sure they're CCBY or alike and this would be he first case where it isn't.

I looked up both the website and the study and both aren't CCBY now so I checked with the Wayback Machine if they were at the time that I uploaded it. It doesn't seem to be the case but I'll investigate a bit further. Two possible ways one could explain it is that I had some other similar study at the time that was CCBY and confused it with this one (unlikely) or that there's an issue with the Wayback Machine. However, what I found is this under CCBY-SA so at worst case I'll upload this as a new version. Would be great if you could make a SVG out of it. I'll investigate further and will, hopefully soon, upload the linked image as new version. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Prototyperspective, fyi File:International Policy Milestones by NOAA.png uploaded, as you requested. --Mister Pommeroy (talk) 12:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'll let you know once I uploaded a new version of the image above. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded a new version but the earlier one should be fine as well. Maybe the study link previously linked to the print. If I recall correctly, I got it from the preprint which is CCBY but linked to the page with the image. The preprint is here. It uses the image without the CCBYSA icon. The image I just uploaded with the CCBY-SA icon can be found from the source site under "Images" in the bottom right. I think CCBY is much better than CCBYSA but I'm a bit unsure if they meant to license the image in the preprint under CCBY which would have been good. Somebody should ask them but for now I'll leave the version as is and change the license to CCBYSA and add a note about this to the file info (it could be that the prior version is CCBY but I don't know if it is). Prototyperspective (talk) 17:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Prototyperspective, the file is now available under file:Globales N2O Budget.svg, in English and German, thanks to Mrmw. --Mister Pommeroy (talk) 15:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for notifying and thanks to Mrmw for creating it. I guess the file-uses would be good to replace with the SVG now. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Categorisation of videos

Thanks so much for categorising a bunch of videos I've imported from Youtube recently! Categories are a bit of an arcane art to me, I can never find exactly what the best categories are :P Suntooooth (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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FunkMonk (talk) 09:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Map categories by year

I am not so sure this is a good idea. Many of the maps are updated regularly. And people will often not be bothered to update the category year. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These cats are old and useful and if you see any that doesn't have the cat updated, change it. If you think keeping things up-to-date is valuable this is needed or useful. I didn't create these categories and people should change the cat and find outdated maps. Prototyperspective (talk) 00:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I guess if someone is actually using the categories to update maps, then that is a good thing. I think many maps get updated when someone notices the map getting old in the article. Or if the first uploader is keeping an eye on it. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Depictions_of_existing_technologies_decades_before_their_invention

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File:Map and regional seismic sections showing location of Nadir Crater.jpg

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Mikenorton (talk) 09:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PDF books/files.

Thanks. FWIW, I've been mass-adding PDFs from directories that claim to be various "books from the US" to there without specifically filtering out the ones that are "files" instead of "books". I was actually intending to go back through and sort the "not actually a book" stuff next (letters, single issues of magazines, theses, etc) before working on fixing bargled names and metadata... actually looking them up. Jarnsax (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Hi, why did you revert this? https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AAu_Petit_St_Thomas%2C_rue_du_Bac%2C_Paris._Tout_le_mois_de_d%C3%A9cembre%2C_grande_exposition_de_jouets%2C_livres_et_nouveaut%C3%A9s_pour_%C3%A9trennes.jpg&oldid=prev&diff=876388877 Best regards XoMEoX (talk) 12:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's not suitable to name this file "Canvas.jpg". And also the current name is fine. The missing reasons just means an extra time burden on file-mover to decline this inappropriate request. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was the original title of the photo. Another user overwrote it with a completely different image and wrote a title for this image. I have reverted this. Now the title no longer matches the image. XoMEoX (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well the original title was inappropriate. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OWID removal

hi! you removed some without replacing them with a subcategory. please check your edits and rectify them.

RoyZuo (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because I was intending to replace them, seems like I can't do multiple cat changes at once with the tool. Did so now and will go through them further. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fog

Moin, you seem to overlook the fact that clouds are already counted among the weather phenomena. The category "fog and mist" is a subcategory of clouds. So to assign them to the weather phenomena is in fact an overcategorization. Therefore, I removed the category. My actions are in accordance with our guidelines. Lukas Beck (talk) 09:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't. I have explained it in the recent edit. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then adjust the supercategories of fog and mist accordingly. The way it is currently implemented, it is an overcategorization and still unsustainable. Kind regards Lukas Beck (talk) 09:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diagrams

Hi again. I noticed you are moving a broad range of images to diagram categories. I think you should move them to infographics categories: Category:Information graphics. It includes more than diagrams. You are including maps and charts too. Those are not diagrams. See this discussion:

Category:Diagrams - link at top goes here:
Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/01/Category:Diagrams - especially look at the comment from the native German speaker: Enyavar.

--Timeshifter (talk) 14:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered about this before creating the diagrams categories so I went here: Diagram#Gallery of diagram types which also includes statistical maps and charts. Information graphics would make the cat name even longer. All the files fit the definition "a symbolic representation of information using visualization techniques". I wasn't so sure about the best title or scope of the category but the files can easily be moved if necessary. However, if that Wikipedia article is wrong please edit it and if possible the name should be just a brief word not two long words "Information graphics". Choropleth map is in the cat "Statistical charts and diagrams". Prototyperspective (talk) 14:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There has been discussion on the Wikipedia page. Editors there have so far refused to change their incorrect definition regardless of the evidence that has been brought up so far. Maybe the info from the German guy, Enyavar, could change their mind. Feel like trying? I no longer have the time, health, or energy I used to have.

The most in-depth discussions are all linked from Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/01/Category:Diagrams. Admins in that discussion agree with the narrow definition of "diagram".

"Infographic" can be used in place of "information graphics". Infographic is in all the dictionaries now. It is the broad term that people should use. Not diagram. See dictionaries:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infographic

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/diagram

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diagram

--Timeshifter (talk) 15:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infographic usually aren't referring to charts or choropleth maps but usually vertical files with text and illustrative images so I'm not sure if that really would be the better choice. It's also "intended to present information quickly and clearly" and this isn't really the case for the files here, they're just meant to visualize/communicate the data, not explain things using a few graphics. It's a problem these things are so badly defined/distinguished/established. I just don't think Infographic is the word actually widely used or understood throughout society for these kinds of images. Maybe one could call it "Data visualizations…". Maybe you could make another post at this discussion? This page seems like the wrong place to discuss it. I'll think about it further another time if it's not resolved earlier. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Charts" are listed here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infographic

"Maps themselves can be considered a form of infographics, but may also be a component of a larger infographic. Design Tip: Choosing the right visualization approach for your data is key." - That quote is from here:

Infographics and Data Visualization. From the design lab of University of Wisconsin–Madison.

See also: Choropleth Infographics Archives.

"Graphics" might satisfy. It has been around an even longer time, and people know the name. It is a totally vague term. Which may be just what is needed for a category name. For example, change

Category:Our World in Data diagrams about healthcare systems to

Category:Our World in Data graphics about healthcare systems

I could live with that. In any case, diagram is just not the right term in English. So please change it to something else. Anything else.

Graphics may not be the best term though. It includes photographs, computer gaming graphics, etc.. Those are definitely not infographics. See:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/graphic

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/graphics

I still think infographics is the best compromise for a broad category of informative non-lifelike images. People have heard the term. There is a discussion on graphics categories here:

Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/02/Category:Graphics

--Timeshifter (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statistical graphics maybe? But it's also so long. Again infographics are usually explanatory texts with lots of illustrative graphics, it's not really the right term also because it's too broad and includes nonstatistical things just like diagrams. Datagraphics would be better but also has downsides. I moved one category to "…graphics…" earlier and will move the other ones too to some new name for now then even though a later rename may be needed then. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See w:Infographics. I like it. I think the term is much more popular nowadays.

I think it is always good to pull maps into separate map categories. Those map categories can then be put under both map and infographic categories. I am going to do it now in one category to show you what I mean.

OK. Here is my example category:

Category:Our World in Data graphics about healthcare systems

I noticed you used "graphics" today on another category:

Category:Our World in Data graphics about natural disasters

--Timeshifter (talk) 18:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My previous comment on "graphics" was incomplete. I hadn't read far enough down the list of definitions here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/graphic - read down: Adjective, Noun, Adjective combining form.

It's definitely too broad of a term.

You said infographics is "too broad and includes nonstatistical things". That's a good thing since it includes maps and diagrams (narrow English definition, not the German definition).

"Statistical graphics" wouldn't work for the same reason. It does not include nonstatistical stuff like maps and diagrams.

The thing about infographics is that it has an abstract informational element to it. That includes charts, graphs, diagrams, maps, "explanatory texts with lots of illustrative graphics", etc.. That does not include photographs (unless it is a photograph of charts, graphs, diagrams, maps, etc.) or cartoons or drawings from nature, etc.. We need this category for what we do on the Commons. No other term works as well.

We have statistics categories. See Category: Statistics. But that does not include maps and diagrams. Since neither contain statistics.

--Timeshifter (talk) 04:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not random maps but statistical maps. They display statistical data such as percentage change compared to previous year and sometimes binary yes/no data. Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2019/09/Category:Diagrams_by_subject Prototyperspective (talk) 10:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Some maps could be categorized under statistical categories.

There are very few categories with "statistical graphics" currently in the name. See category search results:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Statistical+graphics&ns14=1&fulltext=Search&advanced=1

On the other hand I see the recent creation (May 25, 2024) of Category:Statistical graphics.

It is categorized under "Information graphics".

"Datagraphic" is a good idea. But it in not in the dictionary yet:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/datagraphic

We could start using the word datagraphic, and eventually it will make it to the dictionaries if enough people like it. Which may happen since it is a lot easier and shorter than "statistical graphics".

"Data graphics" is used in the real world. Do google searches of it. An example:

https://dtkaplan.github.io/Lessons-in-statistical-thinking/L02-Pointplots.html

I think "data graphics" should be used instead of "statistical graphics" on the Commons. It has the advantage of being able to shorten it to one word. Now or later. I am going to start using it. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that datagraphics or data graphics would probably be the best term but in these cases the categories would be named "Our World in Data datagraphics about…" so that's two times data in a row; maybe renaming to "OWID datagraphics…" would be better when leaving the redirects intact and clarifying the abbreviation in the cat description. That would also make the cat-names shorter which has multiple advantages, mainly regarding display on the cat pages. Prototyperspective (talk) 20:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like acronyms in category names. Many people don't know what they mean. And when scanning a list of categories (like a list of subcategories) it should be clear what they are. Without having to open the category first. Kind of defeats the purpose of a quick scan.

I was talking about using data graphics or datagraphics in general. For many category names, not just OWID ones.

But the OWID category name is a problem. Or not. We could just leave it as "Our World in Data graphics...". It's pretty clear the site is data based. So therefore the graphics are data based too. I suggest keeping it the way it is. I don't think the current OWID cat names are too long. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest adding many of the statistics subcategories to Category:Data graphics. See:

Category:Statistics

--Timeshifter (talk) 22:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bean's War Movie║Mr. Bean's Holiday (segment of the film).webm

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Yann (talk) 12:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Street drain in downtown LA during atmospheric river - February 2024 - Sarah Stierch.webm

Sorry for the name of the category that I have renamed since Category:Effects of February 2024 atmospheric rivers in California to be more general and according to similar categories for other storms.

Pierre cb (talk) 23:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks Prototyperspective (talk) 08:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting my edits

I have come to know that my edits in People of the United Kingdom are reverted by you, with the reason being "not "People of South America" or "People of Africa" so fix that first before adding this". I had fixed that issue before, but Joshbaumgartner reverted it, with the reasoning detailed at Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/06/Category:Wales#c-JopkeB-20240524161200-Joshbaumgartner-20240522173300. Please discuss with him before asking me again to fix the template. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 15:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Prototyperspective, Category:United Kingdom covers the entire sovereign state, including its constituent countries, crown dependencies, and overseas territories, thus it covers multiple continents. Josh (talk) 16:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know that. I have left a comment there. Not all people from the UK are from South America just because there are some crown dependencies and overseas territories – maybe you haven't yet read my comment at the thread Sbb1413 linked. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

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Affected:

File:AI-generated curious turtle; 'Stay Open to Life's Curiosities'.jpg

And also:

File:Cute animal generated by AI 'Mom calls me Precious'.jpg

Yours sincerely, Adamant1 (talk) 08:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Affected:

File:AI-generated curious turtle; 'Stay Open to Life's Curiosities'.jpg

And also:

File:Cute animal generated by AI 'Mom calls me Precious'.jpg

Yours sincerely, Adamant1 (talk) 08:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hecka cute pictures BTW. To the point that I almost feel bad for nominating them for deletion. If you want to argue that they should be kept due to the high quality I'd be totally fine with that. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit

Sorry, but I didn't know how to change the syntax in that case and thought it was more important to read your comment instead of just moving on to other things because it was screwed up. It's not that big of deal. If I ever do that feel free to revert or remove it. I could really care less. Adamant1 (talk) 11:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Subhas Sarkar

Hi. If you know the name of someone please don't add them to the Unidentified people category. A quick google search would have found his WP page and you could have added him to the correct category. Unidentified people is for when you cannot put a name to the people in the photo Gbawden (talk) 06:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was just taken care of categories like that not being in Category:People. The place from where they are moved to such cats should be Unidentified people or another category like that instead of the People category being cluttered with such cats since that cat is linked from the Main page / frontpage. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I appreciate that. One of the tools I use to identify people (particularly Americans) is newspapers.com which is available from the WP library Gbawden (talk) 07:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Allow overwriting

Please see: Commons:Village pump/Proposals#"You cannot overwrite this file."

Template:Allow overwriting

I did not know of this. See thread. This may help in getting images updated. If the word gets out. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this would make much of a difference. For example because most people actually reaching the Commons page for the image (btw these are few) who would indeed upload a new version are already registered. It may be a good change but it wouldn't have much of an impact in regards to updating datagraphics. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of people click on images. If they saw a message at the top it might help: "Please log in and update image with a newer version of the image, if it exists". --Timeshifter (talk) 18:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what is suggested at the link. Maybe this message could be displayed for all images in a certain category but at the same time many would find it distracting or unwanted there, for example for datagraphics that are already well-updated or intentionally about an earlier year. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see that thread. It looks like we are all figuring out better ways right now. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sleeper cars (or not) on California Zephyr

I don't usually follow up renaming requests that I've declined, but I'd like to be sure I haven't missed something about File:Tour of Amtrak superliner sleeper car California Zephyr.webm. All the sources I can find say that the California Zephyr has seats cars, with an open saloon, and sleeper cars with separate roomettes and bedrooms. And this seems to be primarily a video of a sleeper car, matching the description at en:Superliner_(railcar)#Sleeping_cars and on https://www.seat61.com/UnitedStates.htm#what-are-amtrak-trains-like. So what am I missing? --bjh21 (talk) 14:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Category:California Zephyr (Amtrak train), I agree with how that cat is categorized. You can sleep in any bus or train with seats, that doesn't make it a sleeper train. Prototyperspective (talk) 14:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I checked again because I couldn't find more in earlier attempts to check the same and this clears up the confusion, I'll revert my changes and add the missing cats to the linked cat above. Thanks for asking, maybe I wouldn't have checked again any time soon otherwise! Prototyperspective (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anotation

We adjusted it to hopefully fix the issue you experienced.[2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Klimaneutrale Produkte – kurzerklärt.webm edited

Hi!

As you correctly said, having cropped out parts of the video causes problems, so I blurred only the respective parts. I hope it is better now :)

Greetings --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 16:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thank you! Prototyperspective (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Videos from YouTube where higher resolution is available at the source

Hi can you think of a better title for this category? Trade (talk) 18:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I didn't create this category...maybe "Videos from YouTube with a resolution lower than the source video" or "Videos imported from YouTube with lower resolution than at source" or something similar. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt meant to imply you made the category. Just seeking suggestions. Sry Trade (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, didn't think you were, I was just clarifying this...for example just in case somebody reads this and assumes I created this category. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts on Category:Videos about firearms and gun control? I wanted to make a catch-all category for videos about gun control, second ammendment rights, mass shootings, gun violence, background checks, firearms legislation, open carry and similar. Not sure about the name Trade (talk) 03:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of a better title...one could make a cat Videos about firearms and then have a subcat about firearms control/gun control. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think this video was created by the uploader? The recording looks like something by an amateur and not a professional camera man but the bizarre description throws me off. --Trade (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea, it seems like so. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OverWrite request

Hi there, thanks for thanking my upload of File:Vandalism Fighting Tools Wikipedia Ad.gif, could you overwrite this file to File:Qxz-ad86.gif as a newer version of the file? Thanks. Also I have requested at Commons:Overwriting existing files/Requests so if you could answer there that would be helpful as well. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 14:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Motd/2024-10-10

Hi. Could you help me with this template? Should I add {{Media of the day|2024|10|10}} on the file page or this is work for admins? I chose this date because of the World Mental Health Day. THX Mechanik rowerowy (talk) 18:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, other editors will do that. You already did everything, thanks! It's a great choice and the description is good. Prototyperspective (talk) 20:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template added on the file page. Thanks again. Mechanik rowerowy (talk) 05:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your FPC votes

I recommend that you read through all of COM:FPC#Formal things and COM:IG before casting your vote. Featured pictures are chosen based on whether they are among the best pictures on Commons, not on whether they should appear on the Main Page. If the image you nominate doesn't get selected, please don't take it personally and don't start opposing multiple nominations. Our comments are focused on the art, not the artist. According to an excerpt of COM:PSS (a summarised version of COM:SCOPE), educational content is,

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Bird images are within the scope because they assist with species identification, behavior, habitat, anatomy, and scientific documentation. Don't refer to COM:SCOPE just because there are millions of broadly related pictures. Your current votes are disruptive and unhelpful, and you need to stop. If this is making you upset, consider taking a break, relaxing, or visiting another part of the site. If you continue disrupting Commons with your votes, the community will discuss whether or not you are fit to vote on FPC as a last resort. --Zzzs (talk) 16:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

not on whether they should appear on the Main Page

I already learned that but that is not why I oppose these.

It's not about one image I nominated, all of the things I talked about are general things. My rationales and comments are all focused on the "art" – I'd say picture but it indeed seems like FP has become some kind of art critique contest.

Bird images are within the scope because Never said otherwise. They are very much in scope but simply aren't sufficiently educational to be FP is what I was saying. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images of birds are very important. I'm not sure what your issue is with birds, but I adore them. Saying that bird photos are "not sufficiently educational to be FP" is warped thinking because these images are helpful to people who enjoy nature and bird watching, like myself. I seriously wonder what subject is FP-worthy to you. Please rethink this whole situation. Wolverine XI 21:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A diagram of the anatomy of birds or about bird cognition-related matters like the first media of Alex the talking parrot grabbing an object would be more educational. This helps explain what I mean with not sufficiently educational, this site is simply not a photography critique community

but a free media repository with a primary focus on educational media and the FP is really only a photography critique community at this point with extremely high standards for more-educational illustrations, diagrams, charts, and more so I just hold other images to the same very high standards that are also applied to these throughout the years and think there's enough of these among "featured" pictures by now while other are not even getting nominated. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About your nomination of low quality and captions in English, do you think people from Spain, Italy, Greece, Poland, Japan, and else, will find exctiting the "myelin sheath", "ach receptors" and "neurilemma", if they're not familiar with biology? Do you like File:Air conditioning unit as.svg? -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These things could be linked, possibly translated, in the description. It's not necessarily the native language terms that matter there, 1) one could do a Web search for these and find out what it is or quickly translate it using a dictionary and 2) depending on how interested one is in this it would suffice to know that these things are distinct things that have been given names rather than knowing what the native language term for these are. Also people could upload translated versions and e.g. include them in their Wikipedia, I count a whole 10 non-English Wikipedias including it (possibly because many people there can speak English and/or because they added a translated caption). That this image is already very useful even to non-English languages is demonstrated by that it's featured in many such Wikipedias for a long time. I will add these terms to the file description and improve multilingualism a bit. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:46, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Warning after AN/U discussion

Hi Prototypeperspective, you have promised to stop your disruptive votes on FPC and to open discussions about criteria of FPC in a more suitable place. I hope you will lead this dicussion with an understanding that opinions other than yours might also be valuable and show this understanding in the discussion. I saw you already had experience on Commons of holding an opinion that the majority opposes. It reminded me of the German joke about the person who hears a radio announcement about a "Geisterfahrer" on the Autobahn. I supporse you know the one I am referring to, if not, please ping me to tell you the whole joke. So next time you feel like there are hundreds of "Geisterfahrer", please do a quick reality check and ask other people on neutral ground. Take this as a warning not to continue behaviour others find disruptive after they tell you so. Kritzolina (talk) 05:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I voted four times using a new criteria, and maybe responded a bit too often in one nomination and already apologized multiple times. What more do you want? As for opinions, the majority of Germans probably had problematic opinions during the late 30s so I don't see much sense in that point in regards to having or expressing deviating opinions. Again, I already apologized and am a bit confused. Moreover, I already said I should have asked people on neutral grounds or third-parties or more generally to have discussed this instead of voting this way. Lastly, I immediately stopped the behavior when people told me so, they told me after my votes which was the time the ANU was opened. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with that I don't have an understanding that opinions other than yours might also be valuable, the opposite is the case. I guess I argued in a wrong style or replied too often clarifying or defending my disputed vote and, again, didn't continue with these votes after the discussions on my talk page and the voting pages. I saw this talk post first before the ANU closure so I thought it was meant as some kind of warning on top rather than part of its outcome. Maybe there could be an addition to the intro at the top of the FP page that unestablished criteria or criteria not clearly included in the intro should be discussed first before applied (multiple times at least) or similar things. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not asking you to do anything to atone for past behaviour. I am asking you to be a bit more aware of the ways others react to your behaviour in the future. And no, adding more rules and regulations is not the answer to every problem. This is a community run space, so working collaboratively is more important than following the rules. If rules seem to not cover something or seem strange to you, try asking for the opinions of others on how adress the issue at hand.

I will for the moment forgive your Nazi comparison, as I understand you were emotionally upset, not knowing I had closed the discussion on AN/U. But please also don't repeat this kind of comparison when talking about our self organizing online-community. It is highly inappropriate.

And yes, having a different opinion is perfectly alright and one should bring this as a new perspective into discussions. That is part of being collaborative. However, as you rightly pointed out, you did it in a "style" that was highly and unneccessarily disruptive. Try changing your approach, please so that others can clearly SEE you value their opinons. Thank you for reading this. Kritzolina (talk) 06:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Yes, I should have asked about it instead. It is not a Nazi comparison! I was making a point directly addressing point "holding an opinion that the majority opposes" that you wrote, I was not comparing to Nazis at all but sorry if the point wasn't clear despite of me writing so I don't see much sense in that point (as is / in principle). There may be a better example to name that is not much weaker or unclear but I couldn't think of another. I saw that you had a joke about when people have minority views and that is what got me upset so I briefly addressed the point behind this. Just meant to briefly clarify that it wasn't some kind of comparison. Maybe you're saying it's still inappropriate nevertheless but I think it's needed now for me to briefly clarify that it wasn't a comparison. Yes, okay, and thanks for the further elaboration. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Cosmic Calendar – deep time and cosmic history as one year (time-lapse and annotations; 50MB version).gif

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Wake up please

You add misformatted categories to deletion requests. Look how they look like... 186.175.164.3 08:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please be clearer what you mean, I found it: misplaced <noinclude> added via HotCat. Thanks, fixed the problem. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Explaining the Human Body by Deutsche Welle

Hi, thank you very much for helping to properly categorise these videos! If you have an idea for where we can use any of them on the Wikimedia projects, please feel free to add them on the respective pages! Gnom (talk) 11:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Net Migration 2020.png

Hi, the reason for removing the category there is because maps of immigration do not depict net migration, nor vice versa. Net migration is the balance of immigration and emigration. Therefore labelling this map as a map of immigration is not accurate. Komonzia (talk) 17:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not true: maps of net migration are maps of immigration. You could make a subcategory for these (e.g. World maps of net migration") and that subcategory would be in maps of immigration. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me reword it from the context of the image we see: On a map of net migration, the colours we see indicate the number of people who have into each country (im-) minus the number who have moved out of it (em-). On maps of immigration, the number of emigrants are not indicated on the map (except for the countries they have immigrated into, assuming it is a country with data on the map). These are two different and separate things. On a map of immigration since 1990, one might see Estonia as having had some immigrants. That doesn't account for the fact that a huge portion of its population has (died or) left (emigrated) which would be visible on maps of emigration and net migration (dying not being relevant here). Conversely, and to demonstrate that the two concepts have separate distinct statistics, on a map of net migration, the United Arab Emirates might be close to zero on net migration statistics - but in reality has high immigration and high emigration. Komonzia (talk) 17:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good points but that doesn't change that it would still show immigration. Now it can also be more specifically about only maps that show immigration in the way you describe, the solution I'd suggest is adding a category description to the category that makes the narrower scope clear and creating a category "Migration maps of the world" that contains this image as well as the category and maps in Category:Emigration. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Motd and others

Please don't replace videos with any others in MOTD templates without good reasons. Like in Template:Motd/2024-09-04. First, vep.wikipedia still uses file - see vep:Šablon:Motd/2024-09. This video is not as bad as you say, so that it should be replaced with something else. Secondly, there are plenty of empty days on which you can post videos; there are no problems with choosing "empty" days, because there are not so many videos. I do a lot of work to filled the days, I upload my videos from Moscow or upload others or find another interesting videos from other users (from Russia and sometimes other countries); I make traslations to English. I will probably take some of the templates I created to my watchlist after your actions - for example, Template:Motd/2024-10-09. Please take into account that, in general, thanks for the your work on MOTD tempaltes, but I am not happy with 100% of your edits. If there is already a video for the day, then the only reason why the video can be replaced, is the problems with the video licenses themselves. Brateevsky {talk} 10:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I provided good reasons. No, that is not the only reason. vep Wikipedia needs to update if files are changed. You could readd it if you get this video to featured media. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Science_and_technology_timelines

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File:Catheterization-labs-per-million-people.png

This is not a picture of a medical facility. Rathfelder (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But a map of them. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maps of Europe

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The issue is that you should have moved it to a subcategory instead of removing that category. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Annualised rate of change in age-standardised DALY rates for all causes excluding HIV-AIDS, natural disasters, and war and conflict, and SDI by country or territory, for 1990–2010 and 2010–19.jpg: Difference between revisions

This surely properly categorised in Category:2020-10 GBD study about the global burden of 369 diseases and injuries? Rathfelder (talk) 12:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because not all of these are by region; for example this is a global statistic. The section header here is broken. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Child mortality

This is a subcategory of Category:Mortality Rathfelder (talk) 22:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How? (I wrote "unclear why it was removed" because I didn't find this cat set on it). Prototyperspective (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify, I'd like to readd the cat. Also see this. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, Dear Filemover!

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COM:AN/U

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Hi. Just to throw it out there, you seem like a perfectly fine person out of conversations having to do with AI and I think you make some good points about things a lot of the time, even in that area. You clearly get defensive and take it personal when talking about AI though. That's fine. Its your prerogative, but I feel like it just needlessly undermines the points your trying to make. Which again, I think are good sometimes, but no one is going to take you or what your saying seriously if keep couching things in personal commentary about everyone else is just ignorant and overly emotional. Again, its your prerogative if you want to keep taking it there. But I just think people more willing and able to consider your point of view if you skipped it and kept to the main points your trying to make about why AI artwork has value on here or whatever. Anyway, that's just my thought on it. Basic rhetorical techniques here on how to sell an idea to an audience. I think your good at getting your point across and sticking to the point in other areas. You just lose me when it comes AI generated artwork because of how you approach it. I really have no issue with you outside of that though. Adamant1 (talk) 21:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do get defensive sometimes because I try to address the points made and explain the points I made if I think they aren't refuted or substantially weakened with the points made. I was not saying everyone else is just ignorant and overly emotional. If I was being provocative then it wasn't intentional and I tried to be very clear and direct, not offensive or personal. What you said makes sense and I consider it even if I don't agree with how you described my commenting. I see an issue of people not considering points made and not explaining why they conclude things, directly raising this by explaining the risk this entails in direct terms is not meant to be condescending or anything but I'm certainly not saying my argumentation is optimal or anything and maybe I should spend more time to phrase things with a softer more positive attitude or just keep it short and simple like just asking for an explanation without going into any further details why I think such are important or missing. I already try to not get too involved in such discussions, maybe too little but at the same time there's really problematically relatively few other users participating in these. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand where your coming from. It's always frustrating for me when people don't provide valid arguments in deletion requests. Sometimes you have to step back, ask yourself if it ultimately matters that much, and take the lose. That's certainly something I have issues doing myself. Keeping it short and simple certainly helps. It's easy to lose thread and get to wrapped up in defending your position after a short paragraph or two instead of making a clear point. Just to throw it out there in case I wasn't clear about it, by "personal" I merely mean "about the person" instead of the topic. At the end of the day we are there to discuss AI generated artwork. Not have a meta discussion about how users of Commons feel about or how much knowledge they have of the subject. It's not so that those things are bad to discuss per se. It's just usually the wrong place and the wrong time. That's all.

Conversations are hard enough to follow on here as it is. If it were me there'd be a rule that every message has to be a certain amount of characters and direct relate to the topic. Otherwise the conversation just gets to hard to follow. I think you could maybe do it if your addressing a specific person and give a clear example of what they are saying or doing that is ignorant. I just don't think general personal grievances about participants is really helpful or adds anything though. Like "Hey Jeff G, I think your not considering blah blah blah. Here's why I think your wrong about it." I don't know, something like that maybe? At the of the day lot of this really doesn't matter and isn't worth the time or energy we put into it though. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:59, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you.com

I have generated [Category:Images_generated_by_you.com]] and the [Category:You.com]] with the 2 pics. I have no idea, why you use [Category:Images generated by Stable Diffusion]] as next area. Are you sure, that you.com uses this? I dont know and rely on you. Gtx --Wortulo (talk) 17:16, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have noticed – thanks for creating the category and moving the two pics into it. It uses Stable Diffusion – see You.com#AI Tools which is why it's in that category (just like similar tools/platforms/websites). Prototyperspective (talk) 17:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I see. Thx again --Wortulo (talk) 17:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fantasy Art

I just completed and closed Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/02/Category:Fantasy Art - hopefully that'll help too. -- Deadstar (msg) 19:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

> no, people consuming or creating fantasy art showing

> fictional magic do not believe in supernatural magic

Probably true, they indeed do not believe in supernatural magic themselves, still they create or consume fiction where some characters do believe in it, or where such phenomena even occur. So the two topics indeed belong under "magic (supranatural)", and not under "magic (illusion)" AKA "scene magic". Possibly there are some works of fiction where "scene magic" appears, they belong under "scene magic" of course, but it is a very small minority. And "fantasy" per definition falls under "magic (supranatural)" irrespective of how deeply the creator believes in stuff ey writes. Taylor 49 (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As discussed and agreed in the linked CfD, they belong in neither. These are a third and arguably all of them belong into a category about magic broadly but I don't have an issue with it being turned into a disambiguation page. I never said it would belong under "magic (illusion)". Also supranatural is not the same as supernatural and the category is about the latter; fantasy art does not fit there because it is not about "supernatural belief" like I explained. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created Category:Magic (fantasy) which may help? -- Deadstar (msg) 16:37, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does help, still I believe that "fantasy" belongs under "supernatural", because in fantasy, stuff happens that is not possible in the real world. Taylor 49 (talk) 16:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think that solves. As for the supernatural cat: one would have to first move the cat from "Magic (supernatural belief)" to "Magic (supernatural)" and that would need a new discussion. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Female_humans'_health

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Category:Videos_by_Terra_X_by_language_of_subtitle_files

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Comment doesn't match edit

Your comment here doesn't match the edit. Just wanted to make sure the edit is as intended. - Jmabel ! talk 16:05, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does match the edit. You linked some other diff. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Fighting a fever & trying to still be productive. My screwup. I guess the change that caught my eye was the earlier [3], not yours. Do you know whether it is correct (it had no edit summary; I don't know L.A. very well). - Jmabel ! talk 19:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I don't know it either and I could not find any mention of Windsor Square in both the ENWP article and the Wikidata item so I think removing it was fine but I could be wrong on that. Prototyperspective (talk) 19:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category

Hi, Could you please read and use the tutorial instead of posting on my talk page? Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:58, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I think I read and used the tutorial. And I posted on your talk page about 2 empty categories because I have notify category creator checked in Twinkle which is the default setting and I don't see who created and don't know you don't like to be notified. Maybe something is missing in Twinkle. Other than that could you please explain what I did wrong or why I shouldn't post to your talk page? Prototyperspective (talk) 10:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your complaints

re: this. I will not be changing how I write edit summaries. My edit summary was completely intelligible. Per the process at Commons:Categories, it is "rarely necessary to create a new category" and if you add redlinks categories, you should actually create them. This will also keep from populating Special:WantedCategories. There is no reason why we need to mirror the categories at en.wp and in fact, good reasons to not. Please don't add errant redlink categories that you have no intention on creating or adding to any kind of useful structure. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care. I was pointing out that it's misleading because you used the default automatic Undo edit summary when it was only a partial revert.

Redcategories with potential are useful, for example because people with more knowledge about the subject may see the redlink and create it. That report is not an end in itself. That redcategories should only be added if one is about to create them is something you made up or your opinion and I have a different one for which I have good reasons. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, the point about the WantedCategories report is an argument for adding or not removing redcategories. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not. Ideally, that report is empty, not more populated. Why would you think it's better to have more wanted categories? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People can go there and find categories to create. It's ideally empty because people go there and quickly create and populate categories, not because people just remove redcats even when they perfectly fit where they're set and have potential. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See below: please do not create red categories that you have no intention on creating. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:25, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's self-refuting. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you keep on writing that it was the default edit summary when that is not true. Please actually read the edit summaries before writing things that are inaccurate. Did you actually read Commons:Categories? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary included Undo revision 944198316 by Prototyperspective (talk) but again I don't care. I think it's misleading so I recommend you don't do that. You did not undo my edit of that revision so it's inaccurate. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Koavf: While I agree with you that people should not add "red" categories to images/categories without creating them, I agree with Prototyperspective that that is a misleading edit summary, and should only be used if you did a full reversion. - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jmabel: Proto literally did the exact same thing I did: used undo and then added additional text to that. Look at our contribs: they are the exact same thing except he wants me to not do what he did. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know why you don't understand this. I don't care about it but we did not the same thing. I undid your whole edit and left the autogenerated edit summary as is, you reverted my edit partially and left the autogenerated edit summary. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Growth News, October 2024

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Error

You added many non english videos to Category:Voice of America videos in English. please undo.--RoyZuo (talk) 13:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Intended to remove them later after many can be removed via deepcategory (e.g. deepcategory:Voice of America videos in English deepcategory:Videos in Spanish). I'll remove some now. Prototyperspective (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Electrically powered

You ask for a cableway that isn't electrically powered. Here is one: en:Fribourg funicular. We might find others. And then it is debatable if this isn't in the mountains, even if it's in the middle of a town... Gürbetaler (talk) 22:57, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Could these cableways be subcategorized by how they are powered? Many of the urban cableways are not in cities that are in mountainous areas. Also they can go horizontally, can't they so I think are also some of these. Maybe these could also be subcategorized and the categories be added accordingly. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:04, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they could: en:Water balance railway against electrically powered cableways. However, it's a bit of a problem, on which level you would categorize without making it too complicated. I propose to categorize after

type and country Category:funiculars in Switzerland
motive power Category:Water-powered funicular or would be better Category:Water balance funiculars
regional attribution Category:Cableways in the canton of Fribourg

Thus it would be necessary to open a Category:Electrically powered funiculars Gürbetaler (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Would be great if you could create such a category/ies, I don't know much about cableways. I'm interested in them in terms as they relate to sustainable transport where the energy source is one key aspect. Don't know if there is/are a Wikipedia section/s about the different types but if not there could be. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated media of the Day with deletion request

Hello, when you request deletion of a nominated Media of the Day then you should also remove the file from the nomination until the case is resolved. If it is kept it can be renominated later. Of course, this only works, if you are aware of the nomination, but in both cases I noticed myself you have been. — Speravir – 00:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be solved by then, especially as I thought people may prioritize and/or see the file's DR quickly then. I do not remove nominations where it's sufficient to just mute the audio. This can be done quickly and easily to then just upload the muted version. Maybe you're referring to the microscopic video. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also it's still some time until that file is motd, I think if the license of the audio remains unclear I'll just remove it myself before the day. Anyway it seems like you replaced with a file that I intended to nominate for motd at some point as well and I could readd the file with the unclear audio license for a later day after the audio was muted. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I understand, but I think in future no file with deletion request should be nominated anymore until the case is solved.

Actually, it’s good that you have kept an ~~eye~~ ear on this topic. I just noticed another sad case in relation to an otherwise nice short video, cf. Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cinthy and Swirly.webm. You could say what you think about this, of course. — Speravir – 02:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sustainable 3D-printed house - Tecla.webm

Hello, you have nominated this file as Media of the Day for 16 November, so this is kind of urgent: Where did you see the license, because on YouTube the usual line for Creative Commons content is missing, and looking into the archived copies it was also missing from the beginning. This means the file must be deleted from Commons. There is also 3d printed house Tecla on Vimeo, but this has no CC attribution, either. If it once had one this is gone, but it has no archived versions. — Speravir – 02:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, thanks for asking. I asked them per mail and got permission. I wonder why I didn't attach that to the video. Maybe I had it attached somehow. Just checked my mails and they wrote "The WASP digital department has modified the licence of video." so the license of the video was CCBY at the time of upload. Maybe they changed it back because of YouTube's algorithms. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be added as permission tag. You should connect with someone of the VRTS team. I fear, though, an e-mail pronouncement is not enough. Until then it should not be nominated. — Speravir – 02:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just stated that the video license was CCBY at the time of upload. That is enough. I'll see if I find an archived version of the video if they changed it and add it to the permission field. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Without adding a section on your talk page: Instead of the mentioned file – how about File:What is Free Software (Open Source, FOSS).webm? I also liked these two, but they are not in English and need subtitles, at least in this language (as de facto lingua franca), but I have not engaged with this topic yet: File:Airplane turbulence.webm (Japanese) and File:Animacion CutOut clip.webm (Spanish, here also the author tag line is in the moment not adequate to Commons standards). — Speravir – 02:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That file is also on my small list of files to add to MOTD at some point (note that the 2025 motd pages aren't yet created). There are lots of simpleshow videos in English so I would check if an English version of it is in here and if not you could use this method to redub it to English which you could also use for the second video. Thanks for asking. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting! Need to look at it. — Speravir – 00:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if you have any questions or need any help just let me know. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note: I noted your edit some minutes ago. — Speravir – 00:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using "easyresolve" on project chat

When doing so, would annotate the name of the section you are closing?
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 10:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea but that has to be requested at meta:User:DannyS712/EasyResolve, there's just a button and I can't append the section title but I agree that this would be useful, good call. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:46, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So please stop using it on project chat until it's implemented.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 10:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, please get consensus for that first. People also edit sections without having the section title/link in the edit summary and no policy suggests that is needed whatsoever. It's not very useful and not needed to have the section in the revision history. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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File:Nobel Prize Medal in Chemistry.jpg

Yours sincerely, Felix QW (talk) 20:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-AI bias

Please stop displaying your pro-AI bias and insulting those of us that want to see attribution for AIs' use of existing imagery, such as in special:diff/953826815. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop displaying your pro-AI bias I don't have a pro-AI bias. Maybe I have an anti AI bias as I consider much of the reporting around chatGPT unwarranted hype. I make rational reasons. Ok. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:DonkeyHotey

This is in Category:Caricaturists from the United States. If that is not right, can you change it? Rathfelder (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining. Didn't notice this cat. Cirt could you maybe add a reference to the country claim in Wikidata (which you added a while back)? Prototyperspective (talk) 21:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question about search

You may know: is there a way to search that returns the image as well as the categories of a file? Thanks -- Deadstar (msg) 10:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You mean it should show images as search results along with those images' categories? If you only want to search both files and categories you can use Special:Search but if you'd like to do the former I don't know if or how that would be possible. You could make a feature request for enabling search results to show the files' categories. You could maybe use the Commons API somehow for this but I don't think there's a Web UI for this. The best method would be to use the Commons query service. Check the examples or the help pages for how to build a query that does what you intend to do. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply - will have a look at the query service. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken Wikipedia with AI (Spanish Wikipedia)

Hello, I'm sending a message as local sysop from Spanish Wikipedia because it has been observed that you have massively introduced audio files that are supposed to be made with artificial intelligence. I inform you that all the insertions have been removed since some users have expressed concerns about the poor quality of the files (it does not even look like Spanish). The Spanish Wikipedia user community needs to know what your intentions are and if you're going to officially propose a project at a local level, we believe that it is necessary for you to formalize your intentions since regulation and assistance from native users is needed. Therefore, I will ask you to refrain from this project without the endorsement of the local Spanish Wikipedia community. I will appreciate your understanding and collaboration. Taichi (talk) 04:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not massively add them, I just added them to a handful of pages and I wonder how you can describe that as massively. It was two users who reverted a few with mostly false explanations. The audio quality is very good not of "poor quality" and I wonder what makes you think "it does not even look like Spanish" (also shouldn't it say "sound like"). It's high-quality Spanish reading the article as is, I'll fix the numbers in the audio where a user expressed concerns. I don't think one needs to ask the community for adding a handful of audio files. If you don't want to benefit from AI spoken Wikipedia that's not something I spend time on any time soon, it's your own disadvantage. So it's (other / more experienced) Spanish Wikipedia users that should do something about it. However, I strongly oppose your reverts...people did not have a problem with the other audios and you shouldn't have reverted them. Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can or should revert things for no good reason. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I inform you that your actions are already known to the group of administrators (it is no longer a matter of "me"), in fact the general opinion is that you have to expose your actions at the community level because consensus is required on something unprecedented. If you want to be within our house, you will have to learn to live with our rules. You can oppose what I try to do, you will only make the environment more tense and the Spanish Wikipedia community more hostile to your actions. You choose, propose at the community level or go to local administrative measures. Taichi (talk) 19:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Part of what I said is that I'm just putting this to rest and letting somebody else propose this at community level. It would be nice if I would get notified when somebody does this. That I strongly oppose your reverts does not mean that I intend to revert them. Also I'm not aware of any discussion of "group of administrators" and think administration is supposed to and generally transparent. There is no rule against doing unprecedented and bold things. Afaik there even is a rule that says such is allowed. Anyway, I'm living by your rules. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Taichi (talk) 22:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Handling certain Terra X videos

Hi! The Terra X editors asked me how to handle Terra X videoclips that contain errors. They asked for a speedy deletion, which was postponed. Unfortunately, they don't have corrected versions (yet) for overwriting. One reason for keeping was that the files in question were linked to Wikipedia articles (COM:INUSE). Would it be better to remove them from Wikipedia instead of deleting them from Commons, so that the errors are not in these articles?

Regards --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One could 1. remove them from the Wikipedia article and then delete them from Commons or 2. only remove them from the Wikipedia article or 3. leave things as they are now until the corrected new version of the video can be uploaded as a new version. I thought they already have the new version or will have it soon. I think the best option would be 2. and then readding them to the Wikipedia articles when the error was corrected or just leave it as is until the new version has been uploaded if that doesn't take long. They can be removed from the Wikipedia articles more quickly than speedy-deletion and this makes it clearer to readd them (and if they're in use admins are very unlikely to delete them if they have a speedy delete note, i.e. at a minimum it takes a normal long deletion discussion). Prototyperspective (talk) 18:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is a good idea :) --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 13:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ixocactus (talk) 04:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty fast deletion – in the study itself it clearly says

© Philippe Ailleris. Published by the Society for UAP Studies. This is an open access article under the CC license. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

at the bottom of page one. So doesn't this mean this is CCBY – please undelete(?) Prototyperspective (talk) 11:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Túrelio, who did the deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 23:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the top of the page it does say something different (CCBYNC). I think the license directly in the PDF is what counts for the PDF. If it's to be deleted I think it was too fast. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we don't hear from Túrelio, a UDR would be in order. - Jmabel ! talk 20:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for weighing in. I won't file an undeletion request because I really dislike this kind of ambiguity of putting two different licenses on a page. If somebody wants to reupload or undelete, please clarify what the license is which probably requires mailing the author or the journal. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Another problematic MOTD nomination

Hello, File:Does this 2,000 Year Old Steam Engine Work (Aeolipile).webm contains commecials parts fro a sponosr. Are you able to remove these? Even more, there seems to be music used which is not free. You’ve nominated this file for 9th December, so this is urgent. — Speravir – 23:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the 2 seconds at the beginning? These are not a problem but anyone interested in doing so could trim these two seconds. I don't know which music you're referring to but that seems to be just short fragments of music like in many other videos here and would be de minimis (however a template for that should be added if these parts are not muted). I can't mute parts of the video and people aren't even working on those files in Category:Videos containing non-free audio so I doubt somebody else here knows how that could be done. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should have said that I didn’t have watched the whole video, just the beginning after noticing that a sponsor was mentioned. The video producer gives credit for the music, hence my question. If the music is very short there is probably no issue. — Speravir – 23:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's only very short I think the longest is up to 20 seconds at minute 6 and it's like that for many other videos here and de minimis. I think once it is easily possible to mute or replace selected parts of the audio of videos the music segments should ideally be replaced. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Challenge

Hi Prototypeperspective,

as we often "clash" on the page for suggestions for photo challenges, I wanted to ask you if you really want to change the scope and focus of these challenges. You often argue that suggestions are "too broad" and suggest very narrow topics. This goes agains the current spitit of the challenges. I (and some others that already told you this on the project page) believe the challenges should be something that can attract new contributors and be fun motivations for seasoned contributors. Yes, they also should bring in useful images, but again - we probably have a very different idea about what images are useful. I feel your blanket rejections of "too broad" and "not useful" are taking the fun away from creating and discussing possible challenges. Do you have ideas on how to solve this problem? Kritzolina (talk) 16:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of gaps of media. It's inappropriate to host challenges over and over about media for which there are terabytes of photos etc. I don't think I often argue about it being too broad. Many of the media gaps can also be fun and this is not an entertainment art sharing website, there are sites like reddit and flickr for that. I don't think it takes fun away. The problem can be solved by greater awareness and consideration of media gaps and why these gaps would be important to fill as well as broadening the challenge to also include illustrations and (more often) videos. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hear you loud and clear on what you think these challenges are about. I also agree that Commons is not an entertainment art sharing website. However it is a community-run site and communities are made up of humans. Most humand want to have fun in the things they are working on. And while your comments might not take your fun away, they impact how I feel about suggesting challenges. You might want to look up past challenges and who suggested them to get some idea of the content generated by challenges suggested by me.

And yes, we also agree that there are gaps - however I don't see the things you suggest as helpful. The healthy living challenge could also be seen as much too broad - yet I think it is worth giving it a try and see what comes in. And most of the other suggestions you dropped in comments are way too specific and difficult to do to attract greater interest.

We all see gaps in different areas according to our interests. If you want to raise awareness, just telling people they are not meeting your standards is not always the best way. How about starting a discussion about content gaps somewhere on the photo challenge pages, so we can collectively create better challenges?

And lastly - if you want challenges that include illustrations, you will most likely have to establish your own challenge, but I am with you with the video thing and as we have discussed before, this was done and can be done again in the future. But again, this is something that should perhaps be discussed with more users, preferably on the discussion page of the Photo Challenges. Kritzolina (talk) 16:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The healthy living challenge could also be seen as much too broad Yes but again I didn't argue about things being too broad, that's not a point I'm making, it's sometimes an aspect of another point I'm making. No issue with broad challenges. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm ... no issues with broad challenges? May I quote you? "too broad & too unclear"Too broad" and "This is way too broad" - but I feel we are not getting anywhere arguing like this. I don't want to fight with you, I really want to encourage you to think about the photo challenges not only as content creation tools, but as a way to have a place for positive interactions that can strengthen community bonds - which automatically will lead to more and better content. Kritzolina (talk) 17:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That challenge was "Home" with no image example. That's obviously too broad as it could refer to anything. Unclear may be the better term for what I meant. The second is "Where land meets water" and there it's an aspect of lots of media about that being already here. Same for the third where there are a few subjects that miss media but overall WMC is filled with gigabytes upon gigabytes of cases with even lots of unimported good-quality CCBY Flickr files about the subject. Prototyperspective (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And we can go discussing this for a long time in a similar vein - it is clear that you have different views about the challenges then I do. Are you considering thinking about the perspectives I provided? Kritzolina (talk) 19:23, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course and it's not like I haven't done so. Btw also see Many of the media gaps can also be fun [and community-building/strengthening]. In regards to community/fun/etc aspects a further thing I shouldn't forget to mention are that things other than 'photo challenges' could also be possible, that we can disagree on things and that I have no issue with seeing this as a communitybuilding method/place and consider it so to some degree myself as well. Prototyperspective (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for considering those aspects. I'm looking forward to seeing more challenge suggestions from you. Kritzolina (talk) 20:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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